'How many people have you personally helped'
'How many have you personally made see'
'I made a solemn promise to my self not to convey the idea that the watchtower organisation is a kind place to be'
-- You sound as though you have made your life into a personal crusade, as though your life's only goal is to force as many as possible to see the Watchtower as a cold place to be, but why do you feel the need to take this upon yourself? If you force them towards becoming bitter and angry people like yourself, how have you benefitted them exactly? And if the Watchtower org is a cold, harsh and terrible place for everyone to be (which it is not for all), then will they not see that for themselves? The information is out there and available. And if they are living a braindead, comfortable, cozy little life and not willing to think about things, what right do you have to treat them harshly.. to deliberately try to force them towards an outcome that may be worse for them.. but that YOU have decided is better for them?..
What is your real goal? To help others to live a happier and more contented life? Or to risk damaging their self esteem and family lives permanently, so that you can feel better that one more person is free, 'thanks to you' with your efforts and manipulations?
(also, could you please at least have the manners to reply to my previous post? Thanks)
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A farce elder here
by His Excellency injust to share a little about me:.
i was recently appointed an elder, about 6 months ago now, and that is exactly two years after my awakenning, but funny that the appointment came also about 2 years after i had completely lost all faith in god and had been leading a full time anti-jw life .
makes you wonder the role of the holy spirit in the entire nomination or appointment process.. .
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A farce elder here
by His Excellency injust to share a little about me:.
i was recently appointed an elder, about 6 months ago now, and that is exactly two years after my awakenning, but funny that the appointment came also about 2 years after i had completely lost all faith in god and had been leading a full time anti-jw life .
makes you wonder the role of the holy spirit in the entire nomination or appointment process.. .
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'so far as my conscience is clean and I sleep well, I see no reason to resort to any other method'
-- It sounds as though you have surrendered to them, as it were, you've allowed the Watchtower to turn you into a sociopath. You haven't denied any of those points, because you know it, I suspect. And so the cycle of abuse continues.
'Sustaining your livelihood' has nothing to do with treating people harshly. You may be in a prison right now, I understand believe me, but you still get to choose how you treat your fellow inmates.
(p.s It would be nice if you could try to not use so many quotes, we want to help you, or at least hear how YOU feel and think, not what Mark bloody Twain thought. It makes it look like you are hiding behind someone else, and there's no need to really. Just a thought.) -
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A farce elder here
by His Excellency injust to share a little about me:.
i was recently appointed an elder, about 6 months ago now, and that is exactly two years after my awakenning, but funny that the appointment came also about 2 years after i had completely lost all faith in god and had been leading a full time anti-jw life .
makes you wonder the role of the holy spirit in the entire nomination or appointment process.. .
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You remarked that the following thread was interesting. Please take another good look at some of these qualities, and at how you feel towards those that you call 'sheeples'. I hope that you do not view them as less than human, people with less of a right to be treated fairly and kindly than yourself..
What do you think of these traits? (please at least read what I say)
''*.Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.
*.Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.
*.Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.
*.Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.''
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/266172/1/Does-the-WBT24-Train-JW60s-to-be-SocioPaths -
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A farce elder here
by His Excellency injust to share a little about me:.
i was recently appointed an elder, about 6 months ago now, and that is exactly two years after my awakenning, but funny that the appointment came also about 2 years after i had completely lost all faith in god and had been leading a full time anti-jw life .
makes you wonder the role of the holy spirit in the entire nomination or appointment process.. .
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HE-- You kindly told this person to 'take heart'. Now you could be leaving countless people in the same emotional state. Please read the first post. This could be written by a victim of one of your JC's.
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A farce elder here
by His Excellency injust to share a little about me:.
i was recently appointed an elder, about 6 months ago now, and that is exactly two years after my awakenning, but funny that the appointment came also about 2 years after i had completely lost all faith in god and had been leading a full time anti-jw life .
makes you wonder the role of the holy spirit in the entire nomination or appointment process.. .
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"However since knowing TTATT I have been looking for a subtle means to deconvert him without any problem coming out of it."-- You asked this a year ago. You now seem to enjoy turning people into 'angry rabid apostates' with no regard for the pain that you cause..
What changed? Were you treated badly by someone?
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Special Talk Outline 2014 - Does anyone have it?
by gbrn ini was wondering if the upcoming special talk outline has been available by way of a leak?
if not and somebody has access to it, can we somehow get it uploaded for us.
i may be in a position where i attend with family, and would like to know what i'm in for.. thanks!.
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(here's a question the outline should answer)
WHY WOULD A LOVING GOD PERMIT NATURAL EVIL?
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/222352/13/Theists-why-does-God-allow-suffering#4993709 -
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Theists, why does God allow suffering..
by The Quiet One in..specifically, the suffering of animals.
you can talk about free will/sin/people choosing to not listen to god etc to explain human suffering being allowed.. but how can you love a god that allows animals, that haven't sinned or chosen to not have anything to do with god, to have their short lives ended in often long, drawn out, painful ways.
i could list stories i've read that would probably make you feel ill, but i'm not looking to shock anyone or start an emotional debate.
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Adam and Eve sinned, so they were effectively cursed by God to experience suffering that they would never have known. But no animal has ever sinned. They are incapable of such a choice. Was there meant to be animals with cancer, or not? Why did God allow this to happen?
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Special Talk Outline 2014 - Does anyone have it?
by gbrn ini was wondering if the upcoming special talk outline has been available by way of a leak?
if not and somebody has access to it, can we somehow get it uploaded for us.
i may be in a position where i attend with family, and would like to know what i'm in for.. thanks!.
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NewYork44M
posted a day ago(4/15/2014)
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'If you go, see if you can get an answer to this:
GOD HATES THE EVIL OF SATAN’S WORLD(5 min.)
Victims of accidents....
So, does this mean there are no accidents in the new order? I asked a question related to this as a child when I was preparing for baptism. I did not get a satisfactory answer then or ever since.'
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Translating JWFacts to Spanish... Update?
by ILoveTTATT inas you all may know, it is an ongoing project to translate jwfacts to spanish.
given that there are more than 2 spanish-speaking jw's for every one that speaks english, it can be safely said that spanish is the #1 language in the jw world (even though everything is made originally in english).. the spanish-speaking jw's are harder to convince.
i attribute it almost 100% to socioeconomic factors.
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Here's how it works..
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Translating JWFacts to Spanish... Update?
by ILoveTTATT inas you all may know, it is an ongoing project to translate jwfacts to spanish.
given that there are more than 2 spanish-speaking jw's for every one that speaks english, it can be safely said that spanish is the #1 language in the jw world (even though everything is made originally in english).. the spanish-speaking jw's are harder to convince.
i attribute it almost 100% to socioeconomic factors.
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Could this help? If anyone can afford it, you can post on this site what you want translating and a freelancer can take the job..
https://www.elance.com/spanish-translators-jobs/313